Whoever is planting false propaganda about Gobekli & Adam & Eve- please STOP. This site is far far too important for that!
GC
London
I was searching for some pictures of the carvings on the pillars, but didn't find much, except in this video (titled Armenian history) which shows some old pictures mixed in with other pictures. The first old picture it shows looks like a possible candidate for such an engraving, but maybe not...
http://greek-videos.org/video/WmPloPwp9dc/armenia-the-cradle-of-civilization.html
The above link has several videos, the Youtube direct link is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTwsvYjUQo8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Göbekli_Tepe
Gobekli Tepe 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU2qwoMfq-U
Shows the excavation site & workers & remarkable footage of the pillars & carvings & figurines.
Gobekli Tepe 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBfxUq6Z1KM&feature=related
Shows the larger layout of the site, not so much small detail
göbekli hill-derman köyü
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhnwJE1So64
Short home footage of a pillar
sanliurfa-göbekli hill2-derman köyü
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qn4KcHhSnY
Shows a pillar with a lizard carved at the bottom
Abel and Cain, HMMM?
The herders gift vs. the cereal gift. Sounds like the divide that has been there from the begininig of CIVILIZATION??? LOL.
Who knows? It takes 2 to tango, but BOTH need the same resource! Land! Donn't they?
It seems to me that cultivation lasts about 6 months. Animal husbandry is 12 months, but can be done with agricultural effuse for 6 months and pasturing for 6 months.
Just my view of the forest, from my view of the trees.
PS
Duh!?!? Animal husbandry will, no doubt, FERTILIZE the very next crop of cereals!!!
Nitrates, Phospahtes, and ALLLLLLLL the other things that are needed to create a bumper crop, if temps and H2O are ok.
The CONFFLICT happens, when the animals need food too soon, to allow the cereal cultivators to harvest!
A harvest MUST go 2 ways.
It takes 2 to Tango.
How about a FEAST???
Cereal and Animal?
Yum???? The ***FEAST! Let the LAND recover!!, but let the land utilizers contribute AND celebrate the creation that happens, BEFORE chaos destroys the equalibrium.
Give and Take are the creative process that we need to understand.
Too much of either, in one place, is a disaster! Overfarming/cereal creation/harvesting cuases depleteion of the soil. Overgrazing/cereaal feeding/butchering in one place creates a waste dump/fertilizer/nutruant bounty hazmat site.
Spread it all out!!
Grow, but ONLY harvest the grains. leave the fields for animal to do what they do best/fertilize and decompose the rest.
Just my humble opinion on my view of the trees, from the forest.
The CONFFLICT happens, when the animals need food too soon, to allow the cereal cultivators to harvest!
A harvest MUST go 2 ways.
It takes 2 to Tango.
How about a FEAST???
Cereal and Animal?
Yum???? The ***FEAST! Let the LAND recover!!, but let the land utilizers contribute AND celebrate the creation that happens, BEFORE chaos destroys the equalibrium.
Give and Take are the creative process that we need to understand.
Too much of either, in one place, is a disaster! Overfarming/cereal creation/harvesting cuases depleteion of the soil. Overgrazing/cereaal feeding/butchering in one place creates a waste dump/fertilizer/nutruant bounty hazmat site.
Spread it all out!!
Grow, but ONLY harvest the grains. leave the fields for animal to do what they do best/fertilize and decompose the rest.
Just my humble opinion on my view of the trees, from the forest.
Now it came about that when men started to grow in numbers on the surface of the ground and daughters were born to them, then the sons of the [true] God began to notice the daughters of men, that they were good-looking; and they went taking wives for themselves, namely, all whom they chose.
The Neph?i?lim proved to be in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of the [true] God continued to have relations with the daughters of men and they bore sons to them, they were the mighty ones who were of old, the men of fame.
Göbekli tepe , A meeting place for the sons of the [true] God.
this is goofy at work.. the history twisters are at it again..
this is were they unloaded the big boat full of babies...baskets and baskets of every kind of baby animal... at least two of every kind of animal. baby ones... a boy and a girl ... from the Big boat and then raised them till grown.. from the big big boat... right up there at the top of that mountain... that volcano has a really big foot print though ..
Doesn't the name of the hill mean "hill with a belly button"... HUM as like "a pregnant belly"...HUM as Like "a womb".
Anonymous - it is called \"hill with a belly button\" by modern turks because the site of Gobekli Tepe was backfilled by the people of the Harran Plain around 9500 BP, which resulted in a small \"hill\" that looked like a navel. \"Navel Hill\" is a more accurate translation. It has nothing to do with the culture that existed 12,000 years ago. These 20+ rings of megaliths covering 22 acres have been hidden under that \"navel\" of prehistoric refuse since the neolithic.
For my money, the story of Cain and Abel is the most likely biblical herding/agriculture tale. But I agree with the first commentator that Gobekli Tepe is too important to saddle with bible myth. Let it stand for itself.