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		<title>By: Luther</title>
		<link>http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/2007/11/11/why-you-should-care-about-ron-paul/#comment-956</link>
		<dc:creator>Luther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Ron Paul is crazy for advocating gold as currency, so is Alan Greenspan:


"In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.

This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard."


http://www.constitution.org/mon/greenspan_gold.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Ron Paul is crazy for advocating gold as currency, so is Alan Greenspan:</p>
<p>&#8220;In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. There is no safe store of value. If there were, the government would have to make its holding illegal, as was done in the case of gold. If everyone decided, for example, to convert all his bank deposits to silver or copper or any other good, and thereafter declined to accept checks as payment for goods, bank deposits would lose their purchasing power and government-created bank credit would be worthless as a claim on goods. The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves.</p>
<p>This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists&#8217; tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists&#8217; antagonism toward the gold standard.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.constitution.org/mon/greenspan_gold.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.constitution.org/mon/greenspan_gold.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: M</title>
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		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most people don't understand the reasoning for the gold standard?

Gold is scarce, that is, the supply is generally limited.  If you want more gold, you have to work hard for it, you can't easily just make more.  If you could easily just make more, then gold would be worthless.

You CAN easily just print more paper money; so paper money is worthless.  If you back a paper money with gold, then that paper money will be worth the same as gold.

I don't think it's because they don't understand.  It's because they don't KNOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most people don&#8217;t understand the reasoning for the gold standard?</p>
<p>Gold is scarce, that is, the supply is generally limited.  If you want more gold, you have to work hard for it, you can&#8217;t easily just make more.  If you could easily just make more, then gold would be worthless.</p>
<p>You CAN easily just print more paper money; so paper money is worthless.  If you back a paper money with gold, then that paper money will be worth the same as gold.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t understand.  It&#8217;s because they don&#8217;t KNOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Kelton Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kelton Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advocating the gold standard is a crazy political idea because most people don't understand the reasoning for it, but as a policy standard it is just as sound as can be.

Those who want a fiat currency suggest that there isn't enough gold in the world to support a large economy, but 99% of the world's wealth isn't held in fiat currency either!  It is in fiat-currency-denominated assets, obligations, and other instruments.  Money is only used in the course of purchases and other transactions where it speedily is converted into other transactions to support other transactions.

Inflation is like a regressive tax that mostly harms the poor.  Inflation is the product of having fiat money.  Progressives everywhere should re-examine their support for fiat money and central banks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advocating the gold standard is a crazy political idea because most people don&#8217;t understand the reasoning for it, but as a policy standard it is just as sound as can be.</p>
<p>Those who want a fiat currency suggest that there isn&#8217;t enough gold in the world to support a large economy, but 99% of the world&#8217;s wealth isn&#8217;t held in fiat currency either!  It is in fiat-currency-denominated assets, obligations, and other instruments.  Money is only used in the course of purchases and other transactions where it speedily is converted into other transactions to support other transactions.</p>
<p>Inflation is like a regressive tax that mostly harms the poor.  Inflation is the product of having fiat money.  Progressives everywhere should re-examine their support for fiat money and central banks.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Frost</title>
		<link>http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/2007/11/11/why-you-should-care-about-ron-paul/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To VoteForHillaryOnline (comment 12) -- We HAVE checked out Hillary Clinton -- and the other candidates, as well -- and we ARE disappointed in them.  Very, very disappointed.  

To the author of the article -- Only Ron Paul has the sense to talk about sound money.  For decades he has talked about the devaluing dollar.  He has been correct.  How is being correct about something "crazy?"  Ron Paul refers not just to history, wherein every empire which ever existed has debased its currency to support its boondoggle empire, but also to economics, where he is an expert in the Austrian school of free market economics espoused by Ludwig von Mises and Freidrich Hayek.  (Please read "The Road to Serfdom," by Hayek.)  

I do not see how allowing a competing currency backed by gold or silver, as Ron Paul proposes, is in any way a bad idea.  Competition is always a good thing.  If people choose to do business using pieces of paper "backed" by a printing press instead of currency that is backed by precious metal, they can do so.  I think you would find that the fiat currency would be quickly abandoned -- by all of us "crazy" Americans. 

Only Ron Paul is willing to discuss the folly that is the insane war on drugs -- which is actually a war on civil liberties and which creates a black market which funds the very terrorists that the candidates who support the war on drugs claim to be fighting.  The prohibition on medical marijuana and industrial grade hemp (which even Canadians can grow!), are especially egregious. 

Government can only give away what it first takes away.  Ron Paul's plan to eliminate the income tax is very pro-growth and has the moral high ground.  It is, after all, OUR money.  Every government program is a parasite on the productive economy.  We can eliminate the income tax by cutting spending to levels of the year 2000.  We would save billions of dollars on compliance costs (to say nothing of stress.)  Canada benefits from having the strongest economy in the world next door to it.  The economic  growth in America would spill into Canada.  

I am tired of hearing the media repeat, like a drum beat, attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy, that Ron Paul cannot win.  History shows that many candidates who are polling low before Iowa and New Hampshire DO win.  How quickly they forget.  (Or how CONVENIENTLY they forget.)  The polls are meaningless because they ask respondents whether they are likely voters.  The vast majority of respondents say "Yes," but we know from experience that only a fraction of those people actually vote.  So, intensity of support becomes more important and Ron Paul clearly has far more intensity of support than any other candidate.  Ron Paul's supporters WILL vote.  

He is also the only candidate who can outflank the Democrats on the war issue and the health care issue, as he is a doctor.  The Democrats know this.  The Republicans who think that Rudy Giuliani can beat Hillary Clinton are delusional.  Giuliani is unlikely to even deliver New York state in a head-to-head competition between himself and Carpetbagger Clinton.  How could he possibly defeat her if he can't win his own state?  

Ron Paul is the most sensible candidate running.  Our military personnel seem to agree.  They send him more donations than any other candidate in any party.  

Peace, Prosperity, Freedom.  Ron Paul in 2008.  The ONLY rational choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To VoteForHillaryOnline (comment 12) &#8212; We HAVE checked out Hillary Clinton &#8212; and the other candidates, as well &#8212; and we ARE disappointed in them.  Very, very disappointed.  </p>
<p>To the author of the article &#8212; Only Ron Paul has the sense to talk about sound money.  For decades he has talked about the devaluing dollar.  He has been correct.  How is being correct about something &#8220;crazy?&#8221;  Ron Paul refers not just to history, wherein every empire which ever existed has debased its currency to support its boondoggle empire, but also to economics, where he is an expert in the Austrian school of free market economics espoused by Ludwig von Mises and Freidrich Hayek.  (Please read &#8220;The Road to Serfdom,&#8221; by Hayek.)  </p>
<p>I do not see how allowing a competing currency backed by gold or silver, as Ron Paul proposes, is in any way a bad idea.  Competition is always a good thing.  If people choose to do business using pieces of paper &#8220;backed&#8221; by a printing press instead of currency that is backed by precious metal, they can do so.  I think you would find that the fiat currency would be quickly abandoned &#8212; by all of us &#8220;crazy&#8221; Americans. </p>
<p>Only Ron Paul is willing to discuss the folly that is the insane war on drugs &#8212; which is actually a war on civil liberties and which creates a black market which funds the very terrorists that the candidates who support the war on drugs claim to be fighting.  The prohibition on medical marijuana and industrial grade hemp (which even Canadians can grow!), are especially egregious. </p>
<p>Government can only give away what it first takes away.  Ron Paul&#8217;s plan to eliminate the income tax is very pro-growth and has the moral high ground.  It is, after all, OUR money.  Every government program is a parasite on the productive economy.  We can eliminate the income tax by cutting spending to levels of the year 2000.  We would save billions of dollars on compliance costs (to say nothing of stress.)  Canada benefits from having the strongest economy in the world next door to it.  The economic  growth in America would spill into Canada.  </p>
<p>I am tired of hearing the media repeat, like a drum beat, attempting to create a self-fulfilling prophecy, that Ron Paul cannot win.  History shows that many candidates who are polling low before Iowa and New Hampshire DO win.  How quickly they forget.  (Or how CONVENIENTLY they forget.)  The polls are meaningless because they ask respondents whether they are likely voters.  The vast majority of respondents say &#8220;Yes,&#8221; but we know from experience that only a fraction of those people actually vote.  So, intensity of support becomes more important and Ron Paul clearly has far more intensity of support than any other candidate.  Ron Paul&#8217;s supporters WILL vote.  </p>
<p>He is also the only candidate who can outflank the Democrats on the war issue and the health care issue, as he is a doctor.  The Democrats know this.  The Republicans who think that Rudy Giuliani can beat Hillary Clinton are delusional.  Giuliani is unlikely to even deliver New York state in a head-to-head competition between himself and Carpetbagger Clinton.  How could he possibly defeat her if he can&#8217;t win his own state?  </p>
<p>Ron Paul is the most sensible candidate running.  Our military personnel seem to agree.  They send him more donations than any other candidate in any party.  </p>
<p>Peace, Prosperity, Freedom.  Ron Paul in 2008.  The ONLY rational choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://www.walrusmagazine.com/blogs/2007/11/11/why-you-should-care-about-ron-paul/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it that people think some type of monetary gold standard is crazy? Is printing money out of thin air sane? Is thinking this newly printed money will carry the same value over time sane? Do we not care about people's savings and retirement funds anymore? And why do these pundits keep saying he has no chance? Jimmy Carter was polling 2% at one point and went on to win it all. Analyzing what his campaign has done to get funds is near pointless. It's not his campaign and it's not even Ron Paul we really care about. It's his message, a message of liberty, of limited government, no empires, and following the constitution. You're right that raising money won't make him a viable candidate...because he already is one. He became viable during his introduction to a Fox news debate months ago; he was became viable when he said: "I'm Ron Paul and I'm the defender of the constitution."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it that people think some type of monetary gold standard is crazy? Is printing money out of thin air sane? Is thinking this newly printed money will carry the same value over time sane? Do we not care about people&#8217;s savings and retirement funds anymore? And why do these pundits keep saying he has no chance? Jimmy Carter was polling 2% at one point and went on to win it all. Analyzing what his campaign has done to get funds is near pointless. It&#8217;s not his campaign and it&#8217;s not even Ron Paul we really care about. It&#8217;s his message, a message of liberty, of limited government, no empires, and following the constitution. You&#8217;re right that raising money won&#8217;t make him a viable candidate&#8230;because he already is one. He became viable during his introduction to a Fox news debate months ago; he was became viable when he said: &#8220;I&#8217;m Ron Paul and I&#8217;m the defender of the constitution.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SteveL from Whitby</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveL from Whitby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need a Ron Paul in Canadian politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need a Ron Paul in Canadian politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it crazy to want to stop inflation? Greenspan said in a recent interview that inflation will be the biggest long-term economic crisis for the United States. He advocates going to a 'Hard Asset' standard too. 

Paul isn't strictly for a Gold standard. He believes that the dollar should be based on hard assets. This seems crazy because economics are foreign to most people. But the dollar was based on gold for many years. The 'crazy' idea is to print fiat money. The cost of two market bubbles, a drawn-out foreign war, corporate welfare, a Social Security system based on IOUs that the government wrote to itself means that we've got real economic troubles on the horizon. 

Trust me, they'll be talking a lot more about going to the gold standard when average americans can't feed their kids. And they sure as hell won't be talking about the caribou in ANWR. You have a choice to deal with it now on your terms, or later when you're desparate. But if you care about the things that *seem* like issues today, you had better vote for someone who will keep our economy together. That's Ron Paul.

G</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it crazy to want to stop inflation? Greenspan said in a recent interview that inflation will be the biggest long-term economic crisis for the United States. He advocates going to a &#8216;Hard Asset&#8217; standard too. </p>
<p>Paul isn&#8217;t strictly for a Gold standard. He believes that the dollar should be based on hard assets. This seems crazy because economics are foreign to most people. But the dollar was based on gold for many years. The &#8216;crazy&#8217; idea is to print fiat money. The cost of two market bubbles, a drawn-out foreign war, corporate welfare, a Social Security system based on IOUs that the government wrote to itself means that we&#8217;ve got real economic troubles on the horizon. </p>
<p>Trust me, they&#8217;ll be talking a lot more about going to the gold standard when average americans can&#8217;t feed their kids. And they sure as hell won&#8217;t be talking about the caribou in ANWR. You have a choice to deal with it now on your terms, or later when you&#8217;re desparate. But if you care about the things that *seem* like issues today, you had better vote for someone who will keep our economy together. That&#8217;s Ron Paul.</p>
<p>G</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 08:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Democrat who switched parties to vote for Ron Paul.  I will never be polled or counted as a "real" supporter but you can bet I will be voting on a "real" ballot for him.  I never donated a dime to a candidate before and I give Ron Paul all I can.  

I am on a fixed income.  I need Dr. Paul.  If another big government person comes into office I will be in the poor house.  Literally.  This country's money is a mess and only Ron Paul sees that.  I find it a sad state of affairs that the one thing that will help the most people - returning to sound money and ending the enormous amount of inflation we are experiencing and preventing Congress from attacking the world willy nilly is the one thing that you make fun of him for.  Do you not know what fiat money does?  It destroys the economy takes the money from the middle and lower classes and transfers it to the rich.  

Huckabee's plan of that awful fair tax would make it impossible for me to purchase a thing in this country and would destroy businesses and send us into the deepest depression ever seen, but not one of the people writing about him or his policies is bright enough to see that. In fact, most of them think it is crazy to return to sound money.

Ron Paul just makes sense.  He is the only man running who cares more about the people and how he can help them than how much power he can grab as President.  In fact, he wants to LIMIT the power of the government.  Sadly, here, most people are not taught economics and they have no idea that most of the things they beg the government for are the things that are causing them to drown.

Every one of my friends is also over 40 and they are all Democrats that will be voting for Ron Paul.  No other man has a chance of beating Mrs. Clinton.  Don't these idiots get it?  We are tired of paying through the nose for a war we don't want any part of!

My cost of living has gone up 175% this year.  Don't give me that bull about 2% inflation.  I know how much they are printing.  You all know that food and fuel are not counted in the CPI, right?  If they did, the number would be too high.  Without Ron Paul, get ready for the next great depression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Democrat who switched parties to vote for Ron Paul.  I will never be polled or counted as a &#8220;real&#8221; supporter but you can bet I will be voting on a &#8220;real&#8221; ballot for him.  I never donated a dime to a candidate before and I give Ron Paul all I can.  </p>
<p>I am on a fixed income.  I need Dr. Paul.  If another big government person comes into office I will be in the poor house.  Literally.  This country&#8217;s money is a mess and only Ron Paul sees that.  I find it a sad state of affairs that the one thing that will help the most people - returning to sound money and ending the enormous amount of inflation we are experiencing and preventing Congress from attacking the world willy nilly is the one thing that you make fun of him for.  Do you not know what fiat money does?  It destroys the economy takes the money from the middle and lower classes and transfers it to the rich.  </p>
<p>Huckabee&#8217;s plan of that awful fair tax would make it impossible for me to purchase a thing in this country and would destroy businesses and send us into the deepest depression ever seen, but not one of the people writing about him or his policies is bright enough to see that. In fact, most of them think it is crazy to return to sound money.</p>
<p>Ron Paul just makes sense.  He is the only man running who cares more about the people and how he can help them than how much power he can grab as President.  In fact, he wants to LIMIT the power of the government.  Sadly, here, most people are not taught economics and they have no idea that most of the things they beg the government for are the things that are causing them to drown.</p>
<p>Every one of my friends is also over 40 and they are all Democrats that will be voting for Ron Paul.  No other man has a chance of beating Mrs. Clinton.  Don&#8217;t these idiots get it?  We are tired of paying through the nose for a war we don&#8217;t want any part of!</p>
<p>My cost of living has gone up 175% this year.  Don&#8217;t give me that bull about 2% inflation.  I know how much they are printing.  You all know that food and fuel are not counted in the CPI, right?  If they did, the number would be too high.  Without Ron Paul, get ready for the next great depression.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't ever want to hear another economist or political hack talk about the inflexibility of the gold standard.  It's only inflexible in the sense that when they spend too much money the consequences are swift and cannot be hidden.  I prefer corruption, stupidity and arrogance to be called out in front of God and everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t ever want to hear another economist or political hack talk about the inflexibility of the gold standard.  It&#8217;s only inflexible in the sense that when they spend too much money the consequences are swift and cannot be hidden.  I prefer corruption, stupidity and arrogance to be called out in front of God and everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Paul.  That sounds nice.  Oh, btw, he has more than a chance, is going to win it all.
 
He's catchin' on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Paul.  That sounds nice.  Oh, btw, he has more than a chance, is going to win it all.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s catchin&#8217; on.</p>
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